Camposol Residents Association Central Liason Committee 27th Meeting Wed. 21st November Those Present: Roy Pugh Chairman Brian Tokely Vice Chair Mary Cooper Secretary/Treasurer Barry Cooper Member Irache Merino Member Max Minter Member Ken Richardson Member Joyce Stewart Member Meeting started on time at 14.30pm. Minutes of Committee Meeting held 21st November 2007 and Masa Meeting held 25th October 2007 The chairman began by saying that due to Mary´s accident she had been unable to type up the minutes and it had been necessary to co-opt the services of a shorthand typist to whom Mary had dictated the minutes. He then went on to review the minutes. Minutes were accepted as a true record with no amendments. Proposed by Brian Tokely, seconded by Ken Richardson..............Carried. Matters Arising: Touristica; Roy informed the committee that he had been contacted by both ITVand the BBC, in his capacity as Chair of the CRA. Both were requesting a statement from him about the subsidence problems on Camposol. He had refused to make any comment at this time, as we are awaiting our Lawyers Report. He asked the committee; If , when we have this report and have studied it, and if Masa then offer no satisfactory answers, would the committee feel a statement should be made? He would be willing to do so but would not want to comment only on subsidence but comment on the whole state of affairs re. Camposol. Decision to be made after receiving Lawyers Report. Landscaping; Brian reported that a group of residents on D have worked together to turn an empty piece of land into a pleasant area with plants and seating. He suggested that Rod Sawyer be asked to do a feature about this in the Courier and say that Masa and the Ayuntamiento might take note of what can be done, and pointing out that it is they who should be creating and funding landscaping not the residents. Irache said it should be remembered that the more we do for ouselves, the more it will look like a private estate, and the less inclined the Council could be to include Camposol as part of Mazarrón. Proposed by Barry and seconded by Ken that Brian´s suggestion be implemented....Carried. Action: Roy to contact Rod. Ambulance Station; Chair informed that he had been in touch with The Lions for information as to where the Ambulance will be stationed. Their belief is that it will be next to Marianos, as will the Clinic. Lawyer´s Report. Chairman is going to put a piece in the Courier re the lengthy wait for the Report. Whilst we accept that new laws passed in August have had to be integrated into the report, and we know that Joaquin gives us more hours work than we pay him for, Roy will also ask that Joaquin realise that the CRA is under pressure from all sides to produce the report. Action: Roy Pugh Fundraising and Entertainment: Max reported that the Bonus Ball and the Car Boot stall are both doing well in raising much needed funds. The planned Auction needs more quality goods to sell. He also still needs an Auctioneer, and help to keep records and collect money. Mary offered such help as she can give, and Joyce also offered to help. We are in desperate need of storage space for Car Boot goods, and more volunteers are needed to help with fundraising. He asked that a piece be put in the Courier asking for volunteers. The venues and dates for some of next year´s events are now set; February 6th ......Games Night at Rumours March 19th ........Race Night at Kennellys April 18th ..........A Dance Night at Rumours May tba ............Barbeque Action: All committee members to actively seek more volunteers, storage space, and goods for the auction. A piece in the Courier...................................Action Roy Appeal on the notice board in Kennellys......Action Roy Access to C and D from the Motorway: A complaint has been made that ther are no signs for C and D and that visitors and delivery men have no idea where to go. We will ask Joaquin to bring this to the attention of the Ministry of roads when he meets with them. Action: Roy to contact Joaquin Courier Editorial Committee. Ideally this would be a sub-committee of four persons. We currently have a team of three. Mary stressed that in order to be able to proof-read the Courier properly, we need to ask Rod to provide a hard copy proof 4-5 days before going to press. Chairman agreed to write a letter to that effect f.a.o. Rod. Action: Roy Pugh Translations: It was agreed that, whenever possible, all translations will be done by Irache Merino, with the exception of documents with legal implications which will be dealt with by Joaquin. Updating of Membership Register: Mary reported that Tony Butler, now resigned from the committee, has kindly offered to carry on with this task until such time as Mary is back in action. Agenda, Item 4. Accounts for December Courier. A full account of all CRA Bank a/c´s will be published in the December Courier in order that all members can be aware of our finances. Action: Mary Cooper Agenda, Item 5. Committee Member Article in Courier. Chair put forward the idea that a member of the committee might like to write an article, on whatever subject they wished, to be included in the Courier. Irache offered to write a piece about Christmas in Spain, and Brian Tokely a piece about the Bahia Hotel and its history. Action: Irache Merino and Brian Tokely Agenda, Item 6. Co-opted Committee Members. Brian asked the Chair, is it in the Articles of the CRA that we can co-opt members on to the Committee? Roy stated that the sequence of events leading to the co-opting of the most recent member to the Committee , was in keeping with said Articles. He went on to say that the Committee is still one member short, and has no one in reserve to call on. It was suggested we put an article in the Courier, (perhaps targetting victims of Touristico laws and subsidence) asking for interested parties to volunteer their services. Proposed: Max Minter seconded Brian Tokely Carried unanimously. Agenda, Item 7. Nominations for Executive Positions. This item deferred to next meeting as Irache, who had raised this item, had to leave to return to work. Action: Deferred to next meeting. There being no other business,the meeting closed at 4.30pm. Date of next meeting; January 9th 2008 ___________________________________________________________________________ Camposol Resident´s Association Meeting with Masa Wednesday 21st November 2007 Those Present: Roy Pugh Chairman, C.R.A. Brian Tokely Vice Chair, Joyce Stewart Member, Daniel Bascuñana GrupoMasa Fernando ?? GrupoMasa interpreter The meeting opened promptly at 6pm. Daniel apologised for having to cancel the last scheduled meeting due to illness. Item 1. Update on surveys of faxed properties (8 on D7, 1 on C14) Daniel showed the work schedule and advised of the work already in progress. He produced the fax which Roy sent to him after the last meeting about the 9 houses not then inspected. He then showed a letter, saying that 4 owners on D7 had retained a lawyer of their own. The letter also mentioned a further 4 houses though it seemed the second 4 owners had not retained the services of said lawyer. Roy was asked to clarify with all 8 owners whether they intend to deal with their problems through their own lawyer or through the CRA as Masa can only deal with one or the other. Roy agreed to do this, but reminded Daniel of the 1 property on C14 which is urgently in need of inspection. Item 2. Progress on B4 & B5 Escrituras. Roy told Daniel that he had passed on to owners of the houses on B4 which have no Escrituras the Customer Services number given to him at our last meeting. That one owner had rung this number and received a courteous and reassuring response, but that another who rang was passed from one number to another receiving neither help nor courtesy along the way. Daniel noted this and will hopefully deal with the person(s) concerned. Brian then asked could all the Head Office staff be made aware of the advice given to us by Daniel in order that all are “singing from the same songsheet”. He agreed, and said that Masa is dealing with the Ayuntamiento on the issue of these escrituras. With reference to B5, he said there are no problems relating to the legality of any of the houses on B5. Item 3. Qualify cleaning responsibility on B Commercial Centre. We knew the Centre had been cleaned the day before this meeting. Roy thanked Daniel for his intervention, and expressed the hope that this work will be ongoing. He then asked would it be possible to have the walls of the pedestrian ramp painted. Both sides agreed graffiti is a problem, light coloured walls might attract more graffiti, but bare cement and black walls are really ugly.Daniel noted our request. Item 4. Progress with Correos. Roy asked has any progress been made with Correos reference an office on Camposol, adding that we are aware that Masa lease out the units on B commercial and that Correos will not rent, they want to own their properties. Daniel told us that Masa is in talks with Correos in Valencia with reference to deeds for land on Camposol. He pointed out that this will need the support of the local Ayuntamiento and that Masa are in talks with them on many Camposol topics—B4 escrituras, Correos etc. Item 5. Rubbish bins on Sector D. Roy told of the resident´s concerns about the 40+ bins lined up on Sector D: that they are a traffic hazard, unsightly, and attracting vermin as they are full to overflowing. It is accepted that the situation has been caused, in part, by people not wanting bins near their own homes and moving them to this one place. Daniel queried whether we were asking for more bins or more frequent emptying. Our answer was either or both. Our concerns were noted and this subject will be raised again if there is no improvement. We then asked could an area be designated where garden rubbish could be burned. Roy told of a recent incident when Masa employees set fire to the huge heap of waste on A and the Guardia Civil appeared and made them put the fire out. Daniel agreed to ask of the Ayuntamiento if this is possible and also, as no-one can light a fire any where in Spain without a permit,he will ask for a one day per week permit. This ended today´s agenda. With apologies for the lack of prior notice, Roy gave to Daniel for his attention: A list of recently reported swimming pool related problems from: Mr. And Mrs. S. Newman Mr. And Mrs. Lilley Mr. And Mrs. J.Gray Mr. And Mrs. Leslie Mr. S.Long A query from B. Warren and R. Lisson who have been waiting 4 years for their Escritura, and A report from B.Nouch on D29 of a 25 hour lack of electricity due to a non-functioning generator. The meeting closed at 6.50pm. Next meeting arranged for Wednesday 12th December.